I said the program was slipping. He had a great run but from 2005-2010 he was 64-62. He had a great run when he took over the program but whatever it was - A10, tenn job, Judy - he slipped from where he was. We are now awful. He isnāt taking over a strong program to keep winning he would be rebuilding the program which is very different than what he had last run especially given 4 years of slipping from previous highs.
Melvin was on HC for 2 years and Jeff spent awhile trying to rebuild the program. Bobby should have more accolades than either but that doesnāt mean he kept the program humming at that level.
Again Iām not anti Bobby but I think he is far from a sure thing given where we are now.
ECU did research on it when he was rehired, and heās the only example they found of a coach actually being fired and then rehired by the same school at a later date. There are examples of course like Mack Brown that left and then returned after being fired elsewhere but no other examples like Dooley or Lutz would be if you rehired him that anyone is aware of.
Dooley was one of the youngest coaches in D1 at the time and had a winning record at ECU and was fired after going 13-14 by a new AD that didnāt hire him. The best player missed 9 of the 27 games that year and it gave him the excuse to get his own coach. Dooley had David West committed when fired and returned the entire team the following year.
Thatās right and you make my point for me. Mack left on his own accord and STILL came back. Bobby didnāt want to leave. I promise you he would love to come back to his Alma mater.
He asked the question, I provided the only answer there is. May I also suggest a great candidate IMO for your job that isnāt 63 years old and that hasnāt been out of college coaching for years at this point like Lutz, with the game and portal and all changing so much.
Heās at ECU
435-127 as a head coach in D2/JUCOās
*Including 170-27 at his last stop where he won a JUCO National Title, went to another Final 4 and three Elite 8ās in 6 years. 100% of his recruits got D1 scholarship including future 1st round pick Chris Durate there
He was also at Providence where he was named a top 25 assistant in the nation by rivals and most recently at St Johnās
Maybe youāll scoff at this guy but Steve Forbes was he predecessor at the same JUCO and that seems to have worked out pretty well since heās in the ACC now.
Yeah, you also tried it with Lutz, look at his record in NAIA. I think JUCOās is different though. He recruited high level P5 talent to that JUCO, even a couple of NBA players. Itās not really the same as the other level of D2/D3 etc. They are recruiting and coaching real D1 high level players.
There are a lot of examples of JUCOā guys going to D1 and rock and rolling. Steve Forbes (from the same JUCO) Brad Underwood, Chris Jans etc. Some examples of D2 guys too like Bruce Pearl, Beliene, Bo Ryan etc just off the top of my head. Kevin Keats was 260 -17 at a top Prep school for example. No on the job training needed with guys like that., they have ran their own programs well.
For the love of everything holy, please go back to your board and haunt them. I canāt see how anyone really appreciates your presence here. Call it our Christmas present and go away.
Ronnie Arrow had two stints at South Alabama - 1987-95 and 2007-12. Jags all time winningest coach (177-127) was fired in season during his first stint in Mobile, then resigned / retired - also in season - the second go round. Won SBC tournament in 1989 and 1991, then coached USA to an NCAAT at large bid in 2008, the last time they made the Big Dance. In between started the MBB program at TAMU Corpus Christi, where he took the Islanders to their first and only NCAAT appearance in 2007 as Southland champs.
I mean I like bobby and I think I was willing to give the guy another shot before he was fired but I think its time to move on from that. I do think we need a vet if sanchez is let go. I was hoping for a guy like tim miles but heās already been picked up.
out of left field I would actually be kind of interested in chris mooney from richmond. he used to beat bobby and heās still kind of young. he actually got into a the sweet 16 once. and god knows he probably needs a reboot from richmond. And neither of the miller brothers are currently doing anything at the moment. it couldnāt hurt to look at them for the job I guess.
And Wissel had the most D-I experience as a HC and we know how that worked out. In fact, only Niners coach who ever had a D-I head coaching background prior to landing in Charlotte.
Of course, not arguing that we never go after a D-I coach. Just pointing out the history.
Guys like Richey are going to get better jobs then Charlotte at Furman. I know this ticks people off, but I would endorse Bobby in a heart beat.
When we fire Sanchez, weāll owe too much money to open up the bank. If we find a way, it needs to be bare minimum of $1 million with increase in the assistant pool.