A couple of comments from a WCNC.com article:
Dem BleuGumms 1 hour ago wrote:
I was thinking the same thing Gurl. Might be something worth mentioning!
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Gurl Gone Wild 8 hours ago wrote:
how much for tickets???
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[QUOTE=ninerID;419039]Quick Question, per judy the breakdown went like this:
15k seat stadium
- 7k for students
- 7k for FSLās
- remaining to go to player comps, opposing teams.
Thus leading to the perception, āif you want to watch us play, you have to buy an FSLā.
[B]How do we āengageā the public, if they canāt attend?[/B]
I have friends and coworkers who would love to be engaged in a local football program, and the tailgating events. However, they are not going to drop a grand on a program + season tickets, that doesnāt exist, when they havenāt even sent 1/10th of that back to their alma mater.[/QUOTE]
I think the bar is just being set high. I would be ecstatic if we sold that many FSLās but we will likely be around the 5000-6000 range. Those who bought FSLās will get the best seats, those who buy season tickets or individual game tickets will be sitting up top or on a grass hill in the end zone.
[QUOTE=HP49er;419049]
I am not happy with the way the campaign has been run to this date. However, I donāt want to see it fail, and itās up to us (and our friends) to make this work despite the lack of leadership provided by Phil.[/QUOTE]
QFT Now is not the time for this constant bitching, itās time for the people that truly want this to step up and get to work to make this happen. There will be plenty of time to bitch after October, whether we have a team to talk about or not.
[QUOTE=J Felt;419054]What would you have the AD do?
We need a place to play, which means we need to raise $$.
Whatās the alternative?[/QUOTE]
I would have doubled the price of season tickets for the first season. I posted a similar thing above, but 20,000 season tickets at $300 each is $6,000,000 in revenue. Thatās more money than we will raise in FSL donations if we sell 5000 FSLās, and people would have a ticket in hand and not just an empty seat and feeling like they got ripped off. You would already have 20,000 fans, and probably half of them would donate some addtional funds to help the cause (and get credit for a tax deduction). If you want to tier the seating, you could make 6000 seats cost $500, 4000 at $400, and the remaining 10,000 seats to be sold would be $300 for that first season. That way you would be tiering the seats more fairly than the FSL plan and raising additional income up to $7.6 million prior to kickoff. Iām throwing out round numbers for the ticket prices based on what college football season tickets usually cost. Youāre looking at a 25,000-30,000 seat stadium, but you already have the tickets sold (including the students). Now you can go talk to some corporations and big donors about getting their names involved because you can show that you have a large fan base to advertise to. Right now we have 1800 seats sold and look like the most apathetic fan base on earth.
every time I read the comments on a Charlotte.com story about football, it makes me think itās never going to happen. So many people in this city seem to hold a grudge against us for some reason and take pleasure in us failing.
It was the cause of football that made me an author. The force with which it struck my mind and the dangerous condition the university appeared to me in, by courting an impossible and an unnatural reconciliation with those who were determined to reduce her, instead of striking out into the only line that could cement and save her --The Establishment of a Football Program-- made it impossible for me, feeling as I did, to be silent.Football always appeared to me practicable and probable, provided the sentiment of the university administration could be formed and held to the object: and there is no instance in the world, where a people that had been so wedded to former habits of thinking were so effectually pervaded by the turns of all those who supported football, undiminished, through such a succession of good and ill fortune till they crowned it with succes, as there had been in the case for football.
But as the scenes of war appeared closed, and every man preparing for home and happier times, I therefore took my leave of the subject. I had most sincerely followed it from beginning to end, and through all its turns and windings: and in whatever form I may hereafter be in, I shall always feel an honest pride at the part I have taken and acted, and a gratitude to nature and providence for putting it in my power to be of some use to Charlotte and to mankind.
But to now not put football beyond the power of economic calumny is to throw the least reflection upon our honor. Character is much easier kept than recovered, and that man, if any such there be, who, from littleness of soul, refuses to lend his hand only to injure it, contrives a wound it will never be in his power to heal. The end of the football movement would be to us, a source of endless misfortune.
So far as my endeavors can now go, they shall be directed to reconciliate our affections, reunite our interests, and draw and keep the mind of the university together; and when we take into view the great work which we have gone through, and feel, as we ought to feel, the just importance of it, we shall then see, that any indecent, personal dishonor to our own characters, as being injurious to our cause.
Something must be yielded up to make the whole secure. In this view of things we gain by what we give, and draw an annual interest greater than the capital. ā I ever feel myself hurt when I hear that football, that great palladium of our liberty and safety, has as great a chance at succeeding as it has in failing.
On football our great national character depends. It is this which must give us importance abroad and security at home. It is through this only that we are, or can be, nationally known in the world; Our great title is CHARLOTTE ā our inferior ones vary.
As we work together even harder to establish an inheritance for posterity, let that inheritance descend, with every mark of an honorable conveyance. The little it will cost, compared with the worth of the university, the greatness of the object, and the value of the national character, WILL be a profitable exchange.
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[QUOTE=Niner National;419065]every time I read the comments on a Charlotte.com story about football, it makes me think itās never going to happen. So many people in this city seem to hold a grudge against us for some reason and take pleasure in us failing.[/QUOTE]
Amen!
Harris commented last night about how the powers in the UNC system wanted to fight Erskine Bowles and Bubois over the big urban university getting a football team. Like it or not, football gives you visibility that NOTHING else does.
Itās nice that Minter and Rucker are āambassadorsā for the program and neither have purchased FSLās.
http://www.news14.com/Default.aspx?ArID=611910
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It's nice that Minter and Rucker are "ambassadors" for the program and neither have purchased FSL's.
There are quite a few ānamesā that arenāt on that list. I wonāt be the one to call anyone out, but rather disappointing to see who has not purchased their FSLs yet.
It's nice that Minter and Rucker are "ambassadors" for the program and neither have purchased FSL's.
amen to thisā¦what the hell?
There are quite a few "names" that aren't on that list. I won't be the one to call anyone out, but rather disappointing to see who has not purchased their FSLs yet.
Was this list shown last night or something?
Video on the main page of [URL=http://www.charlotte49ers.com/][B][U]Charlotte49ers.com[/U][/B][/URL].
Johnny Harrisā speech is just as good the second time around!
Was this list shown last night or something?
No, people on teams received a list of those who HAVE paid for their FSLs.
Quick Question, per judy the breakdown went like this:15k seat stadium
- 7k for students
- 7k for FSLās
- remaining to go to player comps, opposing teams.
Thus leading to the perception, āif you want to watch us play, you have to buy an FSLā.
How do we āengageā the public, if they canāt attend?
I have friends and coworkers who would love to be engaged in a local football program, and the tailgating events. However, they are not going to drop a grand on a program + season tickets, that doesnāt exist, when they havenāt even sent 1/10th of that back to their alma mater.
Thatās been a complaint since the announcement of FSLs, and I donāt get it either. I think the intent is to prevent the fans who are somewhat active from saying, āwell, Iāll just buy season ticketsā. But it does alienate the general public. Not to mention youāre helping to fund an addition to a temporary stadium.
Johnny Harris was great last night. His speech should be posted, archived, sent in emails and played all over Charlotte. He hit all the key points and was very passionate. He talked about how he and the other community leaders brought the NBA, NCAA final four, NFL, and the greatest golfers in the world to Charlotte every year. He said this is the same type of mission and the city needs it. Everyone told him those things couldnāt be done and he did it.
I just donāt see this failing. I see it just taking longer to secure the funding.
Is his speech available in text or video anywhere yet?
When men like J Harris and Mac E say that the City needs college football, I have no doubt that we will get a team. What the real financiers of this endeavor want to see is support from the community that has been absent at UNCC so far.
I think it is important to listen to these guys talk. They speak in terms of āOur Universityā when describing the school even though many are not alums. I could see the Harris Speech being great advertisement by itself. It basically challenges Charlotte, the community of people, to step up and support its University no matter what team they currently pull for or graduated from.
To be frank, I still pull for the Steelers over the Panthers in most situations, but I still love and follow the Panthers, even if that situation pops up once in a blue moon.
Video on the main page of [URL=http://www.charlotte49ers.com/][B][U]Charlotte49ers.com[/U][/B][/URL].Johnny Harrisā speech is just as good the second time around!
QFT
āThe effort includes many key executives in the Charlotte business community, including developer Johnny Harris, retired bank executive Mac Everett, Bank of America chief financial officer Joe Price, Tim Newman, CEO of the Charlotte Regional Visitors Authority and others.ā
This is the best thing we have going for us if these people are fully engaged. None of these individuals are use to losing or not accomplishing their goals. They do not put their names together in a collective venture and expect it to fail. I would venture to say that Johnny Harris could pick up the phone and in a couple of days have a ton of money secured. Johnny knows how to play the game as well as anyone in the country and in the dictionary under the definition āgood ol boy networkā he is listed as an example and I say this in a highly complimentary way (even if it is not poltically correct).
On a side note I was involved in the Gateway Center uptown and Johnny Harris would come and speak at some of our meetings and we would have to report to him on our part of the business at the center. The man is one of a kind and he is the type of AD I would want at our school!!! We would be BCS Bowl eligible by 2020.
Though I hate the situation we are in, I like that all of the talk of not meeting deadlines now is said to result in a later start date, not abandonment of the program. Just a thought I had as I read/watched all of the articles.