here is the real cuse board. kind of sounds like they are nervous about losing him.
If Hopkins went to BC he would never be allowed back at Syracuse.
This Hopkins story has traction! Betcha our next coach is Hopkins or Kelsey. Mark it down.
That is why the Final 4 contains 3 HOF coaches and no 1st team All Americans. :p[/quote]
Fail. Kentucky had a first and a second team player and was a 1 seed. Syracuse had a second team, was a 1 seed. OSU first team, 1 seed. Duke second team, 1 seed. Kansas second team, 1 seed. Nova first team, 2 seed.
Personally, I think Desean Butler and Crawford got screwed in the AA process.
As far as the teams in the final 4, it’s as much as experienced players as it is HOF coaches. Except for maybe Butler. They’re doing it with a bunch of sophomores. Really impressive.[/quote]
So what you’re saying is that dumb analysts think All American teams are the best, but when it comes down to playing the game then the better coached team wins? …
Last I checked you don’t get a trophy for being a 1 seed.[/quote]
Seriously? Just because they’re in the final 4, doesn’t make them the 4 best teams. Injuries happen, Syracuse and Purdue. Seedings, Temple and Xavier. Match ups, Duke got a much easier bracket than the other 1 seeds, especially Kansas who was supposed to be the #1 overall. Sometimes you have a bad shooting night, Kentucky.
That’s what makes the NCAA different from the NBA. The best team doesn’t always win.
Also, no, I didn’t say the better coached team, aside from Butler maybe. I said the more experienced teams. It’s a combination of everything. Coaching, experience, players.[/quote]
They are the four best teams in the country. The winner of the national championship is the best team in the country. Results are all that matter.[/quote]
I’m not sure if I should even bite, but oh well. So why does the NBA play a series to determine their champion?[/quote]
I guess all of the Super Bowl winners are shams, too? Give me a break. You are what your record says you are, not what some dipshit analyst rates you.
If Hopkins went to BC he would never be allowed back at Syracuse.[/quote]
QFT. After they slid out the backdoor to the ACC many BE teams avoid them scheduling wise like the plague, SU being one of them.
That is why the Final 4 contains 3 HOF coaches and no 1st team All Americans. :p[/quote]
Fail. Kentucky had a first and a second team player and was a 1 seed. Syracuse had a second team, was a 1 seed. OSU first team, 1 seed. Duke second team, 1 seed. Kansas second team, 1 seed. Nova first team, 2 seed.
Personally, I think Desean Butler and Crawford got screwed in the AA process.
As far as the teams in the final 4, it’s as much as experienced players as it is HOF coaches. Except for maybe Butler. They’re doing it with a bunch of sophomores. Really impressive.[/quote]
Not it’s not a fail. I will type slow.
There are 4 teams left. On the roster of those 4 teams there is not a single 1st team All American and there are three HOF coaches.
BTW, The Spartans start 2 Sophs, a Freshman, WVU starts two Sophs and Butler starts three Sophs. So Duke is the only team left not starting at least two sophmores.[/quote]
If you believe that quality players are insignificant, we’ll have a hard time agreeing on anything. You’re really splitting hairs. First team or second team. Ok, so Sheyer and Butler were only better than 3,500 other players, instead of 3,505.
It’s very short term memory too. Do you recall the team that just won it last season. If you need help, they beat a Duke team twice last season, that basically had the same players and same HOF coach.
I never said an experienced team doesn’t play any sophomores. And I did notice you only mentioned one freshman as being a starter. MSU’s best player is a Sr, Duke’s best player is a Sr, WVU’s best player is a Sr, so only Butler has their best player not a Sr.[/quote]
I do not disagree with you Norm. Just saying that THIS YEAR the crop of coaches at the final 4 is better than the crop of players. That is a true statement and not a fail. I agree with your statement about it being a mix of alot of variables. Again, just stating a fact about this year.
And to stay on topic Mike Hopkins would probably be a good hire along wih a few other coaches/asst coaches.
I guess all of the Super Bowl winners are shams, too? Give me a break. You are what your record says you are, not what some dipshit analyst rates you.[/quote]
Again, I probably shouldn’t bite. It’s not as reasonable to do it in football because of the risk of injury. The same reason they only play a fraction of the games compared to basketball.
Do you really think the best team always wins? That’s crazy talk.
By the logic of you are what your record says you are, Kentucky and Kansas are better because their record is still better than any other team.
[quote=" Mullins"]I do not disagree with you Norm. Just saying that THIS YEAR the crop of coaches at the final 4 is better than the crop of players. That is a true statement and not a fail. I agree with your statement about it being a mix of alot of variables. Again, just stating a fact about this year.
And to stay on topic Mike Hopkins would probably be a good hire along wih a few other coaches/asst coaches.[/quote]
Fair enough. I thought your implication was that the best teams don’t have the best players, since there are no first team AAs in the final 4.
Can we offer a class on posting nested quotes? These posts with about 10-15 nested quoted maked it tough on the eyes.
I still like the sound of this guy.
How come all of our threads get off topic?
Because we have already talked about everthing relavent… we need a press announcement quick.
[quote=“Chipper, post:89, topic:22911”]Can we offer a class on posting nested quotes? These posts with about 10-15 nested quoted maked it tough on the eyes.
I still like the sound of this guy.[/quote]
QFT!!! Guys it’s not that freakin hard to correctly use the quote function. You don’t have to quote six years worth of posts just to quote one sentence!
Hopkins will not be here next yr. Period
So you don’t think he will be here?
I disagree with that. Hopkins I think is their main target, though I think they like Kelsey too.
Odom and Schyatt talk was to give us something to complain about.
I like Hopkins and Kelsey. They both get my vote!
Honestly who could argue with a coach who has a National Championship ring…
Lets look at the facts of the Syracuse Program…
- Awesome Zone Defense…(charlotte’s defense last year consisted of DEW and Green picking up steals our zone was lacking)
- Great Perimeter shooting…( always charlottes go to offense)
- Great recruits and ability to develop players for the NBA… (we have always lacked at bringing in C to B players and turning them in to A plus stars)
- Always a contender of the BE and the NCAA… (I want atleast a sweet 16 appearance… and SOOON!)
After 15 years of experience under Boeheim you would have to be a ra-tard not to think he can replicate this process… I saw a few people say that Syracuse recruits some under the radar people… i sort of agree with this (Melo was not, Wesley Johnson wasn’t either) but it is more their ability to IMPROVE them which is what LUTZ NEVER did… I think moving to the A10 he can start his own team… the question is… how close is he to actually getting the HC job at CUSE…
in the end if he leaves its going to cost a bunch of money to move someone from that caliber of a team to Charlotte.
Either way GREAT Coaching options are here… I LIKE ANY CHOICE…
GO NINERS!
If Hopkins has any legitimate indication he’ll take over the program once Boeheim steps down, he won’t leave Syracuse for Charlotte. No offense to our program, but why would he?
Kelsey makes more sense here and I honestly believe he would see it as a great opportunity to make huge impact here.
I’ll be happy with either but I just can’t see Hopkins coming here unless there is ambiguity over who’ll take over at Syracuse.
If I am the Syracuse AD, there is no way I promise to hand the keys to the program over to somebody without HC experience. The “coach in waiting” thing makes some sense in football to keep recruiting classes in tact because one bad class can hurt you for years. In basketball, you can immediately improve your team by hiring the right coach with the right recruits following him. It just doesn’t make sense to do this in basketball at a top-shelf program.
Point being, if I’m the AD, I tell Hopkins to go win as a HC somewhere and then I’d give him a serious look when Boeheim steps down.
If Hopkins is promised the 'Cuse gig, it doesn’t make any sense for him to leave, I agree with that.
The question that Hopkins needs to ask himself is does he want to be the Coach Guthridge of Syracuse? If he comes to Charlotte and is successful for five years he is even better positioned to take over the Orange. If he fails, he is screwed, but what kind of coach ever believes they can’t do the job?