[quote=ā9erken, post:35, topic:22867ā][quote=āsreniN, post:25, topic:22867ā]wow. im kinda surprised by these responses. Spears is a quality player that helps us out a lot.
i understand the sentiments, but we really need to keep him to be a top of the league contender next year.[/quote]I really donāt think weāll be a top of the league contender next year even with Spears on the team.
I agree with those that say this thread is pointless. Who knows what Spears is thinking? Maybe heās worried the new coach will want to let him go. Maybe he is worried the new coach will be a jerk. Or maybe he is not sure who is going to transfer out, and wondering if this will leave him unhappy to stay around or if heād be better off trying to get an overseas contract before the team implodes. If I was in his situation, Iād probably be wondering about whatās in my best interest for next year too. Probably better to wait and see what the players actually do before saying things like āif he doesnāt like it, he can leaveā¦ā[/quote]
I wouldnāt think a new coach would want a top scorer in his last season to leave. Any top scorer for that matter. BUT i can see where a player in his last year and most likely not being drafted in the NBA could possibly be harder to coach. This is where maturity and professionalism and THE LOVE OF THE GAME comes into play.
But if he could make $100K+ overseas and start his career early over thereā¦ not a bad idea imo.
Iām a big believer in make your money while you can. I canāt fully understand why players turn down millions going pro for one more year of college. A big risk imo. Injuries happen.
[quote=ācibik02, post:41, topic:22867ā][quote=ā9erken, post:35, topic:22867ā][quote=āsreniN, post:25, topic:22867ā]wow. im kinda surprised by these responses. Spears is a quality player that helps us out a lot.
i understand the sentiments, but we really need to keep him to be a top of the league contender next year.[/quote]I really donāt think weāll be a top of the league contender next year even with Spears on the team.
I agree with those that say this thread is pointless. Who knows what Spears is thinking? Maybe heās worried the new coach will want to let him go. Maybe he is worried the new coach will be a jerk. Or maybe he is not sure who is going to transfer out, and wondering if this will leave him unhappy to stay around or if heād be better off trying to get an overseas contract before the team implodes. If I was in his situation, Iād probably be wondering about whatās in my best interest for next year too. Probably better to wait and see what the players actually do before saying things like āif he doesnāt like it, he can leaveā¦ā[/quote]
I wouldnāt think a new coach would want a top scorer in his last season to leave. Any top scorer for that matter. BUT i can see where a player in his last year and most likely not being drafted in the NBA could possibly be harder to coach. This is where maturity and professionalism and THE LOVE OF THE GAME comes into play.
But if he could make $100K+ overseas and start his career early over thereā¦ not a bad idea imo.
Iām a big believer in make your money while you can. I canāt fully understand why players turn down millions going pro for one more year of college. A big risk imo. Injuries happen.[/quote]
FWIW, we have placed tons of guys in Europe, Asia, and Australia in pro leagues, I canāt even begin to count. Hell we might lead the NCAA in them. But neve seen a kid go overseas after his JR year.
I will hold judgment on this thing, maybe he has a personal reason. However if he is whining because its basketball coach related, then he needs put a muzzle on it if he has any intention of being a 49er.
Obviously he wants everyone to talk about it if he put it out there. Maybe he needs someone to cuddle him a little and tell him how great he is . I hope the new Coach can give him a hug. Whatever.
Any Coach we bring in will seem like a disclipinarian compared to Lutz.
When you make a move like this there will be fallout and you have better be prepared for it. It is the old 2 steps back before moving in a better (hopefully) direction.
This is part of the problem with the Lutz years. Misses on recruits and transfers coming in knowing they have the offensive freedom(I believe that is the phrase Lutz would use) to āget theirsā.
I do not know Spears but on the court he always seemed one step from out of control at all times. I noticed his tirades against some of our freshman especially Sirin that could not have been productive but who knows how things get sorted out after the heat of the battle.
If he chooses to go good luck and I am sure he did not sign on for this but we are ārebuildingā and situation like this are part of the rebuilding process.
Boy oh boy, more of the āthis guy has a bad attitude!ā
Harris was a cancer, now Spears is one too!
Spears is probably just upset because a coach he liked got fired. He wasnāt a cancer and he wasnāt always a shot or a TO with the ball either. Yes, sometimes he ball hogged, but with good reason. There were plenty of times that he was double teamed that he couldnāt pass out because the defenders were too big and no one was coming to help. He does only have three seconds in the paint to make a decision.
Metro, didnāt you say Bobby was not easy on these guys? That being the reason guys like Bowden left? Bobby was a coach with no discipline and it was obvious. Players drinking and smoking with alums after the game, sloppy play on the court, players ignore the coach and each other, etc. There is a laundry list of problems generated from his lack of control over the teams.
I seriously hope Spears doesnāt leave. He made our entire team a lot better.
[Can everyone stop acting like the guy is satan, sheeshā¦ Heās a good player, and passionate. Iād rather have passion than not caring.
I agree. Spears is a passionate player, sometimes overboard, but nevertheless someone I would want on my team. Yes, he is a handfulā¦maybe even cost Bobby his job with the lack of disciplined shown throgh his behavior and weight issuesā¦but still a talent I would want around for a new coach to have.
Im not sure if they changed or notā¦dont think so but a D1 player cannot transfer laterally or down (D2, D3, NAIA) without sitting out a yearā¦however, a player can transfer up (NAIA to D1) without sittingā¦that is the way it was when I was aroundā¦
[quote=āsreniN, post:25, topic:22867ā]wow. im kinda surprised by these responses. Spears is a quality player that helps us out a lot.
i understand the sentiments, but we really need to keep him to be a top of the league contender next year.[/quote]
Thereās been Spearās bashing once the team started to go south. I donāt get it either. He was the focal point of our offense, that demanded double and triple teams from opposing teams.
Before he got here, there was a picture floating around of him jawing with Kyle Singler. People were saying āI love it. We havenāt had a player with attitude for a long timeā. The team was accused of not nutting up against Duke and ODU. Spears was about the only one to intimidate. Now all of a sudden heās a cancer.
[quote=āninerdad101, post:52, topic:22867ā][Can everyone stop acting like the guy is satan, sheeshā¦ Heās a good player, and passionate. Iād rather have passion than not caring.
I agree. Spears is a passionate player, sometimes overboard, but nevertheless someone I would want on my team. Yes, he is a handfulā¦maybe even cost Bobby his job with the lack of disciplined shown throgh his behavior and weight issuesā¦but still a talent I would want around for a new coach to have.
Im not sure if they changed or notā¦dont think so but a D1 player cannot transfer laterally or down (D2, D3, NAIA) without sitting out a yearā¦however, a player can transfer up (NAIA to D1) without sittingā¦that is the way it was when I was aroundā¦[/quote]
Thatās what Duquesneās Shawn James (older brother of URIās Delroy James) did after the 2007-08 season, but donāt ever recall a Niner menās basketball player doing that. I do know Jon Busch left the menās soccer team after his junior year in 1996, but it wasnāt to go overseas. Hmmmā¦
[quote=āNormmm, post:54, topic:22867ā][quote=āsreniN, post:25, topic:22867ā]wow. im kinda surprised by these responses. Spears is a quality player that helps us out a lot.
i understand the sentiments, but we really need to keep him to be a top of the league contender next year.[/quote]
Thereās been Spearās bashing once the team started to go south. I donāt get it either. He was the focal point of our offense, that demanded double and triple teams from opposing teams.
Before he got here, there was a picture floating around of him jawing with Kyle Singler. People were saying āI love it. We havenāt had a player with attitude for a long timeā. The team was accused of not nutting up against Duke and ODU. Spears was about the only one to intimidate. Now all of a sudden heās a cancer.[/quote]
Back to the age old question, who does our fan base hate more, the team or each other?
I donāt think anyone is saying he is a cancer, but what they are saying is if he is going to have a problem with a disciplinarian coach or any new coach for that matter, then it could be a problem.
[quote=āninerdad101, post:52, topic:22867ā]Im not sure if they changed or notā¦dont think so but a D1 player cannot transfer laterally or down (D2, D3, NAIA) without sitting out a yearā¦however, a player can transfer up (NAIA to D1) without sittingā¦that is the way it was when I was aroundā¦[/quote]Other way around. Can transfer down and donāt have to sit out. Transfer up and sit out a year, which is what Xavierās Andrew Taylor had to do when he left D-II Hillsdale College in Michigan for Cincy. Ditto for La Salleās Steve Weingarten when he transferred from D-III Connecticut College.
[quote=āninerdad101, post:52, topic:22867ā][Can everyone stop acting like the guy is satan, sheeshā¦ Heās a good player, and passionate. Iād rather have passion than not caring.
I agree. Spears is a passionate player, sometimes overboard, but nevertheless someone I would want on my team. Yes, he is a handfulā¦maybe even cost Bobby his job with the lack of disciplined shown throgh his behavior and weight issuesā¦but still a talent I would want around for a new coach to have.
Im not sure if they changed or notā¦dont think so but a D1 player cannot transfer laterally or down (D2, D3, NAIA) without sitting out a yearā¦however, a player can transfer up (NAIA to D1) without sittingā¦that is the way it was when I was aroundā¦[/quote]
Good to see you coming around with more level headed comments.
So we know you arenāt one of Lutzās daughters. Are you Diego? Tremaine? Dalonte?