Bobby Lutz and a system that utilizes small guards who have great offensive skills. [/quote]
I imagine this is probably the real reason he came here. However in interviews he said time and again that he came here because he wanted a shot at playing in the NCAA tournament. He pay have just been saying that because itās what fans want to hear. If he really did come here for a chance to play in the tournament, itād be dumb to leave, because I think we have a great shot next year (even this year isnāt our of the question yet!). If he came to Charlotte just to showcase his skills and rack up gaudy stats, then I could see him leaving and finishing his career like Trevin did.
We also lost 20 games last year with Deuce and Derrio at the guard spots as well.[/quote]
Deuce and Derrio had to play 30 min with a 7 man roster, and their best player kicked off the team have you forgotten that part of the equation.
How many games would Henry and Luka win without Braz, Mayfield,and E. Victor.
Henry has Deuce and Derrio to go to. Deuce and Derrio had a walkon to go to ā¦ lets be serious :
We just might lose 20 games this year with Henry and Luka and Mayfield.
The jury is still out on this team. Dont get to cocky my friend.
And if we do finish with 18 or 20 losses does that mean the next year we should bring Henry off the bench and start over. CMON MAN[/quote]
Not cocky, just pointing out that use a four game winning streak to prove your point while disregarding the overall picture for the season.
Iām a big fan of Deuce and I hope he isnāt thinking of leaving.[/quote]
Felt iām not just using the 4 game winning streak. Iām saying that we went 8-6 OOC last year with Deuce and Derrio at the guard spots. We also played a much tougher OOC schedule and had nowhere near the overall talent that this team has.
OOC is the focus right now because no one truly knows what the overall season is going to turn out to be. We could very well go 2-14 in conference again as this team has not been tested by the likes of A-10 competition.
So as some suggest that Deuce and Derrio could not do the same or better with more talent and a much softer OOC schedule strikes me to be somewhat RIDICULOUS.
Majorās also ridiculous bias against playing those two together was formed without even given them the opportunity to play with a full team. He, as well as we, have no idea what they could do with better ballhandlers, playing 25min as opposed to 35 and a dominant Brazwell.
A good coach could have still worked P. Henry in for 25+ min a game.
A coach that preaches loyalty to team and going through wars together, showed no loyalty to his upperclassmen who gave a 110% for him in the most extreme of adverse conditions, when he had nowhere else to turn.
It would have been much more equitable to put them out there and let them lose their min as a tandem as a result of poor play or better play from others than to just hand it to freshman or transfers without having earned the right.
I really like what I have seen from P. Henry thus far but he turns the ball over just as much as Deuce and Derrio did last year, 1 per every 10min of play. His Ast to TO rate also is just a tad bit better in 8 games then theirs was in 30.
Im just saying that if the present guard rotation leads us to 7-5 OOC this year and we were 8-6 last year then how are we any better than playing Deuce and Derrio together ?
If we are 9-3 going into conf play then I could see the justification.
I would like to see Derrio and Deuce get a chance to play together also but saying last years OOC schedule was much tougher than this years simply isnāt true. Take into consideration we play 4 teams that accounted for 5 games on last years OOC schedule (ECU twice) with only one game being at Halton this season.
You show loyalty by winning games, period. You donāt just play someone because of their class. You play the guys you (as a coach) feel give you the best chance to win.
If Deuce just wanted to play and didnāt give a sh*t about winning, he would have stayed at NCCU.
[quote=ā2k, post:68, topic:26028ā]You show loyalty by winning games, period. You donāt just play someone because of their class. You play the guys you (as a coach) feel give you the best chance to win.
If Deuce just wanted to play and didnāt give a sh*t about winning, he would have stayed at NCCU.[/quote]
If winning games is the only measure of loyalty then Bobby Lutz would still be the head coach of Charlotte. He certainly won more games than he lost here.
If winning games is the only measure of loyalty then KJ, Braz and Deuce would have left after Major led them to a 20 loss season.
I would like to see Derrio and Deuce get a chance to play together also but saying last years OOC schedule was much tougher than this years simply isnāt true. Take into consideration we play 4 teams that accounted for 5 games on last years OOC schedule (ECU twice) with only one game being at Halton this season.[/quote]
Our OOC schedule was much,much tougher last year if for no other reason than the fact we played it with 7 scholly players.
By this time last year we had played on the road:
MASON
ECU
COASTAL
OREGON ST
After 8 games this year we have only played 2 teams with winning records, and only 1 team with a winning record have we played on the road.
Sorry, winning games that matter. Lutz didnāt accomplish didley poo his last 5 years here. We are 6-2 and you bring up transferring. I liked to win and play. If we were 2-6, this discussion would make more sense.
Also, Iām aware Size King hasnāt won anything either. Be his career want trending in the wrong direction.
Speaking of the last 4 games, I can see why Deuce or Derrio is not starting over Pierria. Henry has less turnovers than Green or Briscoe, and if he shot the ball as much as Briscoe then it appears that his scoring would be on par with Deuceās. There is no question that Henry should be the starting point guard.
Assist to turnover ratio
Henry 2.125
Green 1.25
Briscoe 0.75
Turnover per minute played
Henry .18
Green .37
Briscoe .23
Steals per minute played
Henry .08
Green .1
Briscoe .04
Rebounds per minute played
Henry .13
Green .1
Briscoe .11
Points per minute played
Henry .26
Green .3
Briscoe .59
Shots per minute played
Henry .14
Green .31
Briscoe .34
Anyone that canāt see that Henry is a legit D1 talent and has to be on the floor simply doesnāt know what they are talking about or is biased as hell.
If Major plays Green and Briscoe together heās nuts. Both are turnover machines and neither can stop a nosebleed. Briscoe is OK but is a smurf- heās best in a role that if heās hot, great heās helpful, if not sit. Same with Green although he is a little better driving the ball (at times). They are essentially the same player.
My big question is why you even consider playing a Jr & Sr when you have a frosh who will be here 3 more yrs and can use the exerience for the future? If the 2 we have coming in next year can play, Briscoe will sit more, at least he would for me if Iām trying to build a program.
[quote=āhootie, post:74, topic:26028ā]Anyone that canāt see that Henry is a legit D1 talent and has to be on the floor simply doesnāt know what they are talking about or is biased as hell.
My big question is why you even consider playing a Jr & Sr when you have a frosh who will be here 3 more yrs and can use the exerience for the future? If the 2 we have coming in next year can play, Briscoe will sit more, at least he would for me if Iām trying to build a program.[/quote]
Because talented seniors are more experienced than talented freshman. Potential does not win championships.
If you have a Brandon Knight type freshman then its understandable. P. Henry is not that type of talent.
What has P. Henry done in terms of quality wins, losses, and production, that Deuce and Derrio have not done other than satisfy a thirst for a big defensive PG.
The separation between Henry, Briscoe, Green is minimal at best.
If iām wrong show me the numbers ( that depict this great divide in production) not B.S. opinions.
I like Henry and feel he should be playing 25+ in a 3 man rotation of Henry, Briscoe, Green. Thats 75 of 80 backcourt minutes between 1and 2.
Henry is a talented but at this point a very avg PG. 7ppg 3.1 ast 2.4 toās, 60% ft against sub par competition,are not eye popping numbers by no stretch of the imagination.
Derrio avg 13 ppg 3.5 ast, 2.8 toās 80% ft, over 16 games against high level A-10 competition. Also led his team two wins over top 25 ranked competition.
The bias seems to be coming from particular fans and a coach who seem to be so BIG GUARD starved and twisted that you would put take any avg 6ā3 and above PG and put him on a pedestal without the numbers or high caliber wins to back it up.
I think Briscoe should definitely get the start over Green, but I imagine Major is rewarding Green for working hard and being a senior leader. Henry should absolutely be the starting PG.
3 or 4 games into the season I wasnāt so sure because Henry was turning the ball over as much or more than Green and Briscoe did last year and his offense was ugly.
The last few games heās turned it over less and looked to score more while maintaining a defensive intensity (and skillset) not matched by Green or Briscoe.
[quote=āsokool, post:75, topic:26028ā][quote=āhootie, post:74, topic:26028ā]Anyone that canāt see that Henry is a legit D1 talent and has to be on the floor simply doesnāt know what they are talking about or is biased as hell.
My big question is why you even consider playing a Jr & Sr when you have a frosh who will be here 3 more yrs and can use the exerience for the future? If the 2 we have coming in next year can play, Briscoe will sit more, at least he would for me if Iām trying to build a program.[/quote]
Because talented seniors are more experienced than talented freshman. Potential does not win championships.
If you have a Brandon Knight type freshman then its understandable. P. Henry is not that type of talent.
What has P. Henry done in terms of quality wins, losses, and production, that Deuce and Derrio have not done other than satisfy a thirst for a big defensive PG.
The separation between Henry, Briscoe, Green is minimal at best.
If iām wrong show me the numbers ( that depict this great divide in production) not B.S. opinions.
I like Henry and feel he should be playing 25+ in a 3 man rotation of Henry, Briscoe, Green. Thats 75 of 80 backcourt minutes between 1and 2.
Henry is a talented but at this point a very avg PG. 7ppg 3.1 ast 2.4 toās, 60% ft against sub par competition,are not eye popping numbers by no stretch of the imagination.
Derrio avg 13 ppg 3.5 ast, 2.8 toās 80% ft, over 16 games against high level A-10 competition. Also led his team two wins over top 25 ranked competition.
The bias seems to be coming from particular fans and a coach who seem to be so BIG GUARD starved and twisted that you would put take any avg 6ā3 and above PG and put him on a pedestal without the numbers or high caliber wins to back it up.[/quote]
What was done last year doesnāt matter much at this point, and if you ran your team that way then you would lose. It is about production today (see my post above for the numbers), with this group of players against the competition we are playing this year. Henry has outperformed Deuce and Derrio in the games and my guess is also in practice since he started all season. Your assumption all along is that he is starting because he is taller and he is a freshman. It is really because he is more physical, can deliver the ball to other scoring opportunities better, and takes better shots.
