[quote=āZombieLew, post:80, topic:27896ā][quote=ādmastinsc, post:78, topic:27896ā]This is meant to be constructiveā¦itās been your efforts, not mine, but as an interested party:
If I were to have seen this flag at a tailgate this fall without the context provided in this thread, I would have asked myself, what the f*** does that mean?
Itās pulling several things from the city and schoolās history together in one flag, but mostly things no one really knows anything about. It just seems there should be more of an effort to tie it to our schoolās current branding. Just the words āState of Charlotteā, with the fonts matching our current fonts sells the concept immediately, in my mind at least.
I guess in the end, the seal is what does it in for me. I totally get the green and white X and creating a flag to fly this message. I also see the green and white X becoming the only symbol necessary in the future. But, creating a āsealā is a stretch and not something the thousands of fans at tailgates who will not have read this thread will have any clue of, and letās be real, most wonāt stop to ask, what the f*** does that mean?[/quote]
Iāll defer partially to NLP49 for this oneā¦
People may not know about these parts of our history, but that doesnāt make them any less meaningful. What I was working on before the old NC flag and the old owl logo were posted was a logo that consisted of our Universityās crown logo in front of two crossed pickaxes. The final result tied in often overlooked portions of the history that got us to where we are today, whereas my crown and pickaxe idea does nothing to honor our past. In reality, it was creating something for the sake of creating something. There was no meaning behind it, it just was.
A few other things:
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This isnāt the only State of Charlotte reference youāll see. Anybody who follows our coaching staff on twitter has seen it. Iāve said before, I think that āState of Charlotteā really captures the sentiments of a very large portion of our fan base. Weāre trying to stand on our own and push away the shadows that have been imposed on us. This gives us a rallying cry that comments on that.
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Using the schoolās (really the ADās) typefaceā¦ in this design, it just wouldnāt work. Our athletic department uses an oblique version of Gill Sans. Oblique text doesnāt work on a circle. It looks terrible. In the end, Iām still a designer. Iāll make some concessions here and some concessions there (like having to heavily simplify the owl) but putting italicized or oblique text on a circle? If Iām putting my name behind something, thatās one thing I wonāt do.
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The seal itself - I donāt think you give our fans enough credit. Weāre the opposite of Chapel Hill fans - almost all of us are educated and capable of extrapolating information from an image. Most of us know, or at least have heard at some point or another, that our original mascot was an owl. Almost all of us know the importance of the hornetās nest to this areaās history. Iād be willing to venture that at least a few complete strangers would look at that flag and say āHey, didnāt NC once have a flag that was something like that?ā They may have never heard or read the words āState of Charlotteā before, but Iām pretty sure theyāll be able to figure out where weāre going with it.
Thatās really what it is, to be honest. It is a combination of the original NC flag with the current city of Charlotte flag, with a nod to our school and its history. If we drop that seal, all we have is a Niner Green version of the Scottish Flag.[/quote]
I really like what you have done Lew.
You mentioned that your original design used the crown logo. What do you think about the owl wearing a crown to tie it all together?
