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The Verge: Nissan lays out $17.6 billion plan to electrify its future.

Need more nuclear power for EV’s? What would be the increased risks from an attack?

I’ve not heard a good argument for EV over hybrid. Both can use 4 wheel electrical motors, but one doesn’t need a 1500 lbs battery to get it from Charlotte to Raleigh. You can literally hook a 2 cylinder engine to a generator and power all 4 motors electrically while charging a reserve battery. You can program it where it will run strictly off the battery till the charge gets too low. You also can eventually replace the tiny gasoline engine with a hydrogen powered engine when that tech is finally perfected and widely available fuel wise.

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clt credits nugget 49er

electric hummer is on campus

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/12/30/chevy-bolt-gm/

Ars Technica: Hyundai stops engine development and reassigns engineers to EVs.

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It’s a battery using prismatic LFP cells in a structural cell-to-pack architecture without separate modules, packing more cells into the pack to lower the energy disadvantage against cobalt cells.

Still not solid state. Looks like it’s mainly just a packaging method that lets them put more cells into the same space. That’s helpful but doesn’t address weight, charging times, or cost.

These cars really need a viable, cost effective solid state battery solution to achieve rapid mass adoption.

Batteries need to be 50% size / weight as current LFP batteries, and charge in 50% of the time at 50% of the cost.

I find many posts in this thread to have political topics

The Nazis wanted Germans to support the Nazi dictatorship and believe in Nazi ideas. To accomplish this goal, they tried to control forms of communication through censorship and propaganda. This included control of newspapers, magazines, books, art, theater, music, movies, and radio.

Honestly curious, how does the disaster on I-95 this past week play out if all or a large majority of those cars had been electric?

Would be a non issue except for heating. EVs don’t lose any meaningful level of energy sitting idle. Some of them have very efficient heaters. Some don’t.

Folks may have gotten cold depending on how well they’d bundled up and how often they opened the doors. Kinda similar to the gas powered vehicles.

I was stuck on I-40 near Asheville for 4 hours in the winter one year and I just… Turned my car off and stayed in the car once it got cold. Like an EV you’re just trading range for heat if you turn it on. It’s the same dilemma.

clt says the rivian has a pull out stove. That would work

The F150 Lightning is marketed as being able to power a typical home for up to 3 days.

How Much Power Can I Draw From The F-150 Lightning?

The “MegaPower Frunk” is equipped with four 120-volt plugs and a couple USB sockets provide 2.4 kW of power. That’s 20 amps of 120-volt power—way more than enough to run a bunch of cordless tool battery chargers, power electric tools, or even a crock pot—a much cleaner, safer way to prepare road-trip dinners under the hood while driving. And this power is in addition to the power that can be drawn from the outlets in the truck bed, which matches the total peak power of a fully equipped F-150 PowerBoost hybrid—7.2 kW. That’s enough for welding or running a home air-conditioner. And of course, when plugged into the above-mentioned Ford Charge Station Pro bi-directional charger, the full 9.6 kW is available to power the home.

When equipped with an extended range battery, the Lightning is capable of powering an entire house , based on household usage of 30 kilowatt-hours, for three full days. With rationed power usage, Ford says that the battery can stretch for up to an astounding ten days of use.

The Hyundai Ioniq 5 does something similar.

Thinking about it some more, you’d actually be better off than gas if you were careful with your usage. Your gas car is a really inefficient, though strong heater. The Lightning would have a huge advantage over an ICE vehicle.

An EV doesn’t waste it’s power like an ICE vehicle. With a little smart rationing, you could stay cozy for days in an EV.

The cold might sap the battery in an older EV though. Depends on how well insulated it is. That’s too much of a variable from car to car to give a simple answer.

Here is one similar discussion including a quote from a Charlottean:

Aside from the Tesla these are older tech EVs

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clt forgot the sink as well.

So basically besides freezing to death, they would’ve been okay???

I found this. Good read. Huge advantage for ICE cars in this situation. The key is to avoid this situation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/01/04/imagine-virginias-icy-traffic-catastrophe-with-only-electric-vehicles/

Electrek.co: GM unveils sharp-looking Equinox EV starting at game-changing $30,000 price.
GM unveils sharp-looking Equinox EV starting at game-changing $30,000 price - Electrek

When the temperature drops below 40 degrees, an electric car’s battery produces less current. If the battery isn’t charged sufficiently, it can nearly become completely drained in a matter of hours if left in cold weather.

When it drops below 20 degrees, it can put a significant dent in the EV’s range. Driving and using the car’s heating system at or below this temperature decreases the average driving range of an EV by 41%, according to AAA. This means it’s absolutely imperative for drivers living in colder regions to take the necessary safeguards during winter.

It’s not the same dilemma. ICE cars don’t lose gas 40% of their gas when it gets cold. There likely would’ve have been several casualties.