[quote=āhootie, post:39, topic:28636ā][quote=ā4ever niner, post:38, topic:28636ā][quote=ābball49er, post:37, topic:28636ā][quote=ācibik02, post:2, topic:28636ā]Why was the Henry foul call not a charge that the officials reviewed. He looked to be outside the circle.[/quote]Iāve replayed it several times, yes he was outside the circle. I have no idea how they could reviewed it on the monitor and not call it a charge.[/quote] When this happened, I said to the person in the next seat," Are they allowed to review that on the monitor? Well, they are doing it." I havenāt been able to find anywhere that being inside
or outside the circle is a reviewable call. Of course, its on the coaching staff to know that and stop it before it happens. If Henry was outside the circle anyway and the play was non reviewable in the first place, then I think something other than that call needs to be reviewed, namely the future status of those particular gentlemen who worked this game.[/quote]
Call is reviewable- I think Iāve seen it reserved several times this year alone. Someone please correct me if Iām wrong.[/quote]
I think the in or out of circle is reviewable but not whether Henry was there in time to correctly get the charge.
I donāt think it is reviewable after all, I must have been remembering NBA. Still not reviewable in college according to what I have seen looking it up
[quote=ācibik02, post:41, topic:28636ā][quote=āhootie, post:39, topic:28636ā][quote=ā4ever niner, post:38, topic:28636ā][quote=ābball49er, post:37, topic:28636ā][quote=ācibik02, post:2, topic:28636ā]Why was the Henry foul call not a charge that the officials reviewed. He looked to be outside the circle.[/quote]Iāve replayed it several times, yes he was outside the circle. I have no idea how they could reviewed it on the monitor and not call it a charge.[/quote] When this happened, I said to the person in the next seat," Are they allowed to review that on the monitor? Well, they are doing it." I havenāt been able to find anywhere that being inside
or outside the circle is a reviewable call. Of course, its on the coaching staff to know that and stop it before it happens. If Henry was outside the circle anyway and the play was non reviewable in the first place, then I think something other than that call needs to be reviewed, namely the future status of those particular gentlemen who worked this game.[/quote]
Call is reviewable- I think Iāve seen it reserved several times this year alone. Someone please correct me if Iām wrong.[/quote]
I think the in or out of circle is reviewable but not whether Henry was there in time to correctly get the charge.[/quote]
[quote=āninerball49, post:43, topic:28636ā][quote=ācibik02, post:41, topic:28636ā][quote=āhootie, post:39, topic:28636ā][quote=ā4ever niner, post:38, topic:28636ā][quote=ābball49er, post:37, topic:28636ā][quote=ācibik02, post:2, topic:28636ā]Why was the Henry foul call not a charge that the officials reviewed. He looked to be outside the circle.[/quote]Iāve replayed it several times, yes he was outside the circle. I have no idea how they could reviewed it on the monitor and not call it a charge.[/quote] When this happened, I said to the person in the next seat," Are they allowed to review that on the monitor? Well, they are doing it." I havenāt been able to find anywhere that being inside
or outside the circle is a reviewable call. Of course, its on the coaching staff to know that and stop it before it happens. If Henry was outside the circle anyway and the play was non reviewable in the first place, then I think something other than that call needs to be reviewed, namely the future status of those particular gentlemen who worked this game.[/quote]
Call is reviewable- I think Iāve seen it reserved several times this year alone. Someone please correct me if Iām wrong.[/quote]
I think the in or out of circle is reviewable but not whether Henry was there in time to correctly get the charge.[/quote]
fairly sure this is how the rule works this year[/quote]Since itās new to college, Iād imagine it is reviewable.
If Major gets fired doesnāt that give the players we have recruited in a free pass out? No waiting to play at another school?[/quote]
No, the NLI is with the school, not the coach. As 2k said, itās up to the AD to release anyone from it. Sometimes incoming freshmen will be allowed out, but usually not anyone else already on the roster. If Henry graduates this spring, he could transfer under the loophole rule, though.
As for the game yesterday, frustrating to watch at times. We only had 11 turnovers, but some of them just make you shake your head because they were just very unnecessary. The two missed dunks by Lester from jumping too far away, and TWill missing two bunnies from rushing his shot/thinking it was going to get blocked both hurt. The effort was there, which I had questioned of late seeing us get torched at home a couple of times. Just couldnāt get out of our own way. And wouldnāt you know thereās a player from Charlotte on the other team with a chip on his shoulder that seals the win for them. Lost count of how many times that seems to have happened over the years. Hopefully we can put together a couple of wins and get some mojo before going to El Paso for the tourney. Unlike most on the board, I still care and want this team to succeed. We have the talent, we just simply have to execute better.[/quote] āUnlike most on this board I still careāā¦This is the most insulting quote on the board.Again,coming from someone who believes that if you are critical of THE COACH somehow that correlates to you must be rooting for the team to lose and fail.
[quote=ā2k, post:44, topic:28636ā][quote=āninerball49, post:43, topic:28636ā][quote=ācibik02, post:41, topic:28636ā][quote=āhootie, post:39, topic:28636ā][quote=ā4ever niner, post:38, topic:28636ā][quote=ābball49er, post:37, topic:28636ā][quote=ācibik02, post:2, topic:28636ā]Why was the Henry foul call not a charge that the officials reviewed. He looked to be outside the circle.[/quote]Iāve replayed it several times, yes he was outside the circle. I have no idea how they could reviewed it on the monitor and not call it a charge.[/quote] When this happened, I said to the person in the next seat," Are they allowed to review that on the monitor? Well, they are doing it." I havenāt been able to find anywhere that being inside
or outside the circle is a reviewable call. Of course, its on the coaching staff to know that and stop it before it happens. If Henry was outside the circle anyway and the play was non reviewable in the first place, then I think something other than that call needs to be reviewed, namely the future status of those particular gentlemen who worked this game.[/quote]
Call is reviewable- I think Iāve seen it reserved several times this year alone. Someone please correct me if Iām wrong.[/quote]
I think the in or out of circle is reviewable but not whether Henry was there in time to correctly get the charge.[/quote]
fairly sure this is how the rule works this year[/quote]Since itās new to college, Iād imagine it is reviewable.[/quote]
The TV guys immediately said it (ie; defender being inside or outside of the circle) WAS reviewable.
[quote=ālucky57, post:45, topic:28636ā]āUnlike most on this board I still careāā¦This is the most insulting quote on the board.Again,coming from someone who believes that if you are critical of THE COACH somehow that correlates to you must be rooting for the team to lose and fail.[/quote]There are plenty of posters writing that they hope we lose out and/or hope that we donāt make the NCAAās, because it makes it more likely Major will be fired. Thatās rooting for the team to lose, right? Iām not sure if itās a majority, but a lot of people have posted that sentiment.
I think you can definitely say that you do care for the programās future, if not itās present, even if you say that. But then I think that means you arenāt rooting for this season to end successfully.
[quote=ā9erken, post:47, topic:28636ā][quote=ālucky57, post:45, topic:28636ā]āUnlike most on this board I still careāā¦This is the most insulting quote on the board.Again,coming from someone who believes that if you are critical of THE COACH somehow that correlates to you must be rooting for the team to lose and fail.[/quote]There are plenty of posters writing that they hope we lose out and/or hope that we donāt make the NCAAās, because it makes it more likely Major will be fired. Thatās rooting for the team to lose, right? Iām not sure if itās a majority, but a lot of people have posted that sentiment.
I think you can definitely say that you do care for the programās future, if not itās present, even if you say that. But then I think that means you arenāt rooting for this season to end successfully.[/quote]
It really really sucks to be in this position. The reality of where we are vs. the desire to see all things Charlotte do well creates a storm of emotions. I prefer to look at it this way - no matter what happens I am happy. If we win then go niners (even if I think that does more harm than good in the long run) and if we lose well then one more step closer to what I think needs to happen. Overall though it just plain sucks.
Well, I donāt see anything in this article about determining the in/out of the semi-circle by replay. Unless someone can cite another instance where this was done in college ball or give me a rules link,
I still think those refs blew it. And I donāt care if the TV guys said it was reviewable. Iād sort of like to be wrong. On the other hand, if they erred, then at least we have a legit gripe to send to the league.
Edit: They are allowed to determine by replay on whom a foul should be called after there is a foul call. IMO, this is intended to determine which player of the offending team should get the foul
and not which team fouled. Otherwise, there would be many, many block/charge plays resulting in monitor review. Since there arenāt, Iām sticking with my opinion we were screwed particularly
since there is no explicit mention in the rules about in/out of circle replays.
If Major gets fired doesnāt that give the players we have recruited in a free pass out? No waiting to play at another school?[/quote]
No, the NLI is with the school, not the coach. As 2k said, itās up to the AD to release anyone from it. Sometimes incoming freshmen will be allowed out, but usually not anyone else already on the roster. If Henry graduates this spring, he could transfer under the loophole rule, though.
As for the game yesterday, frustrating to watch at times. We only had 11 turnovers, but some of them just make you shake your head because they were just very unnecessary. The two missed dunks by Lester from jumping too far away, and TWill missing two bunnies from rushing his shot/thinking it was going to get blocked both hurt. The effort was there, which I had questioned of late seeing us get torched at home a couple of times. Just couldnāt get out of our own way. And wouldnāt you know thereās a player from Charlotte on the other team with a chip on his shoulder that seals the win for them. Lost count of how many times that seems to have happened over the years. Hopefully we can put together a couple of wins and get some mojo before going to El Paso for the tourney. Unlike most on the board, I still care and want this team to succeed. We have the talent, we just simply have to execute better.[/quote] āUnlike most on this board I still careāā¦This is the most insulting quote on the board.Again,coming from someone who believes that if you are critical of THE COACH somehow that correlates to you must be rooting for the team to lose and fail.[/quote]
I donāt care if itās insulting or not, but as 9erKen stated, that sentiment is shared by several posters and itās even spelled out pretty clearly in many of the threads of late. It has nothing to do with being critical of the coach. I have no problem with that. Itās the idea of rooting for the team {your team) to lose is what is really insulting. And as Ken said, if youāre openly rooting for Major to fail then thatās exactly what youāre doing.
If Major gets fired doesnāt that give the players we have recruited in a free pass out? No waiting to play at another school?[/quote]
No, the NLI is with the school, not the coach. As 2k said, itās up to the AD to release anyone from it. Sometimes incoming freshmen will be allowed out, but usually not anyone else already on the roster. If Henry graduates this spring, he could transfer under the loophole rule, though.
As for the game yesterday, frustrating to watch at times. We only had 11 turnovers, but some of them just make you shake your head because they were just very unnecessary. The two missed dunks by Lester from jumping too far away, and TWill missing two bunnies from rushing his shot/thinking it was going to get blocked both hurt. The effort was there, which I had questioned of late seeing us get torched at home a couple of times. Just couldnāt get out of our own way. And wouldnāt you know thereās a player from Charlotte on the other team with a chip on his shoulder that seals the win for them. Lost count of how many times that seems to have happened over the years. Hopefully we can put together a couple of wins and get some mojo before going to El Paso for the tourney. Unlike most on the board, I still care and want this team to succeed. We have the talent, we just simply have to execute better.[/quote] āUnlike most on this board I still careāā¦This is the most insulting quote on the board.Again,coming from someone who believes that if you are critical of THE COACH somehow that correlates to you must be rooting for the team to lose and fail.[/quote]
I donāt care if itās insulting or not, but as 9erKen stated, that sentiment is shared by several posters and itās even spelled out pretty clearly in many of the threads of late. It has nothing to do with being critical of the coach. I have no problem with that. Itās the idea of rooting for the team {your team) to lose is what is really insulting. And as Ken said, if youāre openly rooting for Major to fail then thatās exactly what youāre doing.[/quote]
If a short term losing streak would bolster the long term prognosis (by ensuring a regime change)ā¦then I would be for the short term implosion.
So, yesā¦I guess I would be rooting for the team to lose. But only because I feel it would improve the program in the long run.
I agree that it sounds awful as I say it to myself and even when I type itā¦but I rationalize my position as the end justifies the means.
^ so if we win cusa tourney, you still want major fired
Anyways, imo you should never want charlotte to lose because there is no guarentees he gets fired, and no guarantees his replacement is any better. To me itās being more of an anti-major fan than a charlotte fan.
[quote=ācibik02, post:53, topic:28636ā]^ so if we win cusa tourney, you still want major fired
Anyways, imo you should never want charlotte to lose because there is no guarentees he gets fired, and no guarantees his replacement is any better. To me itās being more of an anti-major fan than a charlotte fan.[/quote]
If we win the CUSA tourney isnāt fathomableā¦so I canāt answer that one. Itās like asking what I would do if I win the $400Million Powerball jackpot.
You are correct, there are no guarantees that he gets fired or that his replacement would be better. HOWEVER, it would be VERY difficult to keep him if we continue to lose out. PLUS, almost anything would be better than nosediving like we are now. This team beat Michigan and Kansas St in one weekendā¦no way a middle school coach could take this team and go from there to where we are now.
Soā¦Iād take my chances with almost any replacement at this point.
TR, get out your cardboard and crayons and make some āFail Charlotteā signs. Throw things on the court to get technical fouls on us. Identify recruits at the game and urge them not to come here. Wear the other teams colors and try to drown out the Niner fans near you. Taunt everyone in green who supports the team. Show us all what a loser you really are!
99% chance we miss the ncaa tourney. Does the AD care about a few more wins or not making the tourney? Us winning games to close out the regular season āshouldnātā change the AD expectations.
99% chance we miss the ncaa tourney. Does the AD care about a few more wins or not making the tourney? Us winning games to close out the regular season āshouldnātā change the AD expectations.[/quote]
My gut is if we go 2-1 and maybe win 1st round game he us 100% safe. Finish with losing record and lose first round his grip on the job is iffy at best.
99% chance we miss the ncaa tourney. Does the AD care about a few more wins or not making the tourney? Us winning games to close out the regular season āshouldnātā change the AD expectations.[/quote]
My gut is if we go 2-1 and maybe win 1st round game he us 100% safe. Finish with losing record and lose first round his grip on the job is iffy at best.[/quote]
If thatās the case then the issue should be with the AD expectations. wanting the team to lose just doesnāt make sense to me. Itās not like the nba where you get a better draft pick.
We could win the last 3 and I would still want him goneā¦ We could win 2 in the CUSA tournament and he still wouldnāt be the viable answer here. We have 4 years of evidence that supports his not being able to coach, I donāt know what 2 more weeks could possibly do to sway any reasonable person.