[quote=âtruninersfan, post:60, topic:22903â]prob posted on here but i dont feel like reading the 75 threads about this topic per andy katzâŚ
[ul][li]Bob McKillop - Post-Curry, Davidson head man might see greener pastures up the road.[/li]
[li]Dave Hanners - Bobcats asst. coached under Dean Smith.[/li]
[li]Brad Brownell - Coached at UNC Wilmington but could be on the verge of breaking Butlerâs stranglehold in the Horizon League.[/li]
[li]Dave Odom - Former Wake Forest coach has been mentioned as a candidate.[/li]
[li]Larry Shyatt - UF associate HC is interested in the opening.[/li]
[li]Tony Shaver - Former Tar Heel has done a lot with little at William & Mary[/li]
[li]Mike Young - Wofford coach took his team to the schoolâs first NCAA tournament. Is the step-up from the SoCon to the A-10 a natural one?[/li]
[li]but is there a chance Dooley could be heavily in the mix for the Charlotte opening?[/li]
[li]march 24, 2010[/li][/ul][/quote]
not liking these names
[quote=âtruninersfan, post:60, topic:22903â]prob posted on here but i dont feel like reading the 75 threads about this topic per andy katzâŚ
[ul][li]Bob McKillop - Post-Curry, Davidson head man might see greener pastures up the road.[/li]
[li]Dave Hanners - Bobcats asst. coached under Dean Smith.[/li]
[li]Brad Brownell - Coached at UNC Wilmington but could be on the verge of breaking Butlerâs stranglehold in the Horizon League.[/li]
[li]Dave Odom - Former Wake Forest coach has been mentioned as a candidate.[/li]
[li]Larry Shyatt - UF associate HC is interested in the opening.[/li]
[li]Tony Shaver - Former Tar Heel has done a lot with little at William & Mary[/li]
[li]Mike Young - Wofford coach took his team to the schoolâs first NCAA tournament. Is the step-up from the SoCon to the A-10 a natural one?[/li]
[li]but is there a chance Dooley could be heavily in the mix for the Charlotte opening?[/li]
[li]march 24, 2010[/li][/ul][/quote]McKillop is the only one of these I would take. That ainât gonna happen. Maybe Brownell too. WTF did Katz get this lit of losers from?
[quote=âOver49er, post:53, topic:22903â]I understand the need to name a new coach in a timely manner, but I donât think an extra week or 2 in this particular situation is necessarily such a bad thing.[/quote]Agree.
[quote=âhootie, post:55, topic:22903â]Iâve going to take a wait and see attitude. They could be close or the could be early in the process. If I was to hazzard a guess, Iâd say weâre down to a couple or 3 guys, but thatâs all it is- a guess.
Give them a chance- theyâve actually made some good hires in the past in other sports, maybe they will again. I prefer to have someone in place now, but I would rather do a thorough vetting and be as sure as we can they are the right person.
I donât prefer an ACC re-tread, but once again, I donât get a vote.[/quote]Agree.
[quote=âChipper, post:65, topic:22903â]McKillop is the only one of these I would take. That ainât gonna happen. Maybe Brownell too. WTF did Katz get this lit of losers from?[/quote]Yes, quite a list of losers. Afterall, since the last time the Niners went to the Big Dance, the trio of Brownell, McKillop, and Young have accumulated only 6 NCAA appearances. And Brownell is a real loser, having never had a losing season as a head coach and only six 20-win seasons out of 8 total. Definitely wouldnât want anyone like that.
I love how no one on this message board actually knows anything, all we are hearing, including from the news, is just a bunch of BS rumors, and yet
-Judy is an idiot
-our program is doomed
-there was no plan when we fired Lutz
-Fire Judy and Phil
-Wow I canât believe we are talking to these guys who we actually have no way of knowing whether weâve talked to them or not until we hire them
Hey guys, I hear if you wear tin foil on your head it will keep the ACC from brainwashing you into a Tarheel fan. Better get on that. Iâm stocking up as we speak.
If this is true (Observer staff hasnât convinced me they are close enough to this situation to know), then it leads me to believe we have our guy and havenât gone public with it yet. Either that or Judy/CHP are aiming higher than Kelsey. That makes me nervous because personally, I think Kelsey would be a great fit and it doesnât make much sense to not interview him.
Agree with others about timeline. I think by Monday, a decision is made public, one that may have already been made behind closed doors.
Brownellânot a bad choice (probably 4-5th on my personal list after Kelsey, Hopkins, Dooley and Groce) but McKillop and Young. : You conveniently mention their appearancesin the last 5 years (2 for McKillop and I guess 1 for YoungâŚWOW! McKillop has been at Davidson for what ~20 years and has how many NCAA trips (no wins until Steph came along and Iâm willing to bet no more for a while). Not saying their âlosersâ but they arenât necessarily Hall of Famers either. Iâd put Lutzâ record well above either of them although McKillop does get a little extra credit for his one âmiracle runâ.
Okay ⌠instead of âlosersâ can we call them âlousy candidatesâ?
Odom, McKillop, Shyatt, etc may have won a lot of games during their career but I dunno if theyâre the right choice here. Brownell is an excellent choice for people who prefer to win games by scores of 40-37 rather than to lose games by scores of 83-80. But I could see current players leaving rather than staying for Brownell and watching their scoring averages get cut in half.
[quote=â919R, post:70, topic:22903â]Brownellânot a bad choice (probably 4-5th on my personal list after Kelsey, Hopkins, Dooley and Groce) but McKillop and Young. : You conveniently mention their appearancesin the last 5 years (2 for McKillop and I guess 1 for YoungâŚWOW! McKillop has been at Davidson for what ~20 years and has how many NCAA trips (no wins until Steph came along and Iâm willing to bet no more for a while). Not saying their âlosersâ but they arenât necessarily Hall of Famers either. Iâd put Lutzâ record well above either of them although McKillop does get a little extra credit for his one âmiracle runâ.[/quote]I mentioned the past 5 years because thatâs one of the main reasons - if not THE main reason - Lutz is no longer coach. Yes, the SoCon is what it is, but the fact remains that someone mentioned âlosersâ to describe coaches who have taken their respective teams to the Big Dance since the last time the Niners went. And Iâll say Davidson gets back to NCAAs within the next 2-3 years. Hopefully we will have been again by then.
Anyway, not lobbying for McKillop or Young to be the coach, just amused by comments that are way off base. And when speaking of âmiracle runs,â Davidsonâs a lot more recent than ours.
From a aggregate of Jeff Goodmanâs and Jim Utterâs tweets, its between Dooley, Kelsey and Hopkins. I would have Dooley and Kelsey tied for most likely with Hopkins far less likely.
[quote=ârun49er, post:72, topic:22903â][quote=â919R, post:70, topic:22903â]Brownellânot a bad choice (probably 4-5th on my personal list after Kelsey, Hopkins, Dooley and Groce) but McKillop and Young. : You conveniently mention their appearancesin the last 5 years (2 for McKillop and I guess 1 for YoungâŚWOW! McKillop has been at Davidson for what ~20 years and has how many NCAA trips (no wins until Steph came along and Iâm willing to bet no more for a while). Not saying their âlosersâ but they arenât necessarily Hall of Famers either. Iâd put Lutzâ record well above either of them although McKillop does get a little extra credit for his one âmiracle runâ.[/quote]I mentioned the past 5 years because thatâs one of the main reasons - if not THE main reason - Lutz is no longer coach. Yes, the SoCon is what it is, but the fact remains that someone mentioned âlosersâ to describe coaches who have taken their respective teams to the Big Dance since the last time the Niners went. And Iâll say Davidson gets back to NCAAs within the next 2-3 years. Hopefully we will have been again by then.
Anyway, not lobbying for McKillop or Young to be the coach, just amused by comments that are way off base. And when speaking of âmiracle runs,â Davidsonâs a lot more recent than ours.[/quote]
Serious questionâŚSo, getting in 1-2 times over the last 5 years is better than getting in 5-6 times a few years before? I just donât get that. I think its more important to look at what a coach has done overall, not JUST the last 2-3 years.
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[/size][/font]Still in mix. Dooley leader right now. RT @[/color]ejschultz3: @goodmanonfox[color=rgb(30, 179, 179)] whatâs the latest on Charlotte job? Kelsey still a contender?
[quote=â919R, post:75, topic:22903â][quote=ârun49er, post:72, topic:22903â][quote=â919R, post:70, topic:22903â]Brownellânot a bad choice (probably 4-5th on my personal list after Kelsey, Hopkins, Dooley and Groce) but McKillop and Young. : You conveniently mention their appearancesin the last 5 years (2 for McKillop and I guess 1 for YoungâŚWOW! McKillop has been at Davidson for what ~20 years and has how many NCAA trips (no wins until Steph came along and Iâm willing to bet no more for a while). Not saying their âlosersâ but they arenât necessarily Hall of Famers either. Iâd put Lutzâ record well above either of them although McKillop does get a little extra credit for his one âmiracle runâ.[/quote]I mentioned the past 5 years because thatâs one of the main reasons - if not THE main reason - Lutz is no longer coach. Yes, the SoCon is what it is, but the fact remains that someone mentioned âlosersâ to describe coaches who have taken their respective teams to the Big Dance since the last time the Niners went. And Iâll say Davidson gets back to NCAAs within the next 2-3 years. Hopefully we will have been again by then.
Anyway, not lobbying for McKillop or Young to be the coach, just amused by comments that are way off base. And when speaking of âmiracle runs,â Davidsonâs a lot more recent than ours.[/quote]
Serious questionâŚSo, getting in 1-2 times over the last 5 years is better than getting in 5-6 times a few years before? I just donât get that. I think its more important to look at what a coach has done overall, not JUST the last 2-3 years.[/quote]
Depends. If a guy has been somewhere 4 years and been successful for the last two, maybe he had to get his players in and his methods sold in to the team. You would have to look at it situation by situation I would think.
[quote=â919R, post:75, topic:22903â][quote=ârun49er, post:72, topic:22903â][quote=â919R, post:70, topic:22903â]Brownellânot a bad choice (probably 4-5th on my personal list after Kelsey, Hopkins, Dooley and Groce) but McKillop and Young. : You conveniently mention their appearancesin the last 5 years (2 for McKillop and I guess 1 for YoungâŚWOW! McKillop has been at Davidson for what ~20 years and has how many NCAA trips (no wins until Steph came along and Iâm willing to bet no more for a while). Not saying their âlosersâ but they arenât necessarily Hall of Famers either. Iâd put Lutzâ record well above either of them although McKillop does get a little extra credit for his one âmiracle runâ.[/quote]I mentioned the past 5 years because thatâs one of the main reasons - if not THE main reason - Lutz is no longer coach. Yes, the SoCon is what it is, but the fact remains that someone mentioned âlosersâ to describe coaches who have taken their respective teams to the Big Dance since the last time the Niners went. And Iâll say Davidson gets back to NCAAs within the next 2-3 years. Hopefully we will have been again by then.
Anyway, not lobbying for McKillop or Young to be the coach, just amused by comments that are way off base. And when speaking of âmiracle runs,â Davidsonâs a lot more recent than ours.[/quote]
Serious questionâŚSo, getting in 1-2 times over the last 5 years is better than getting in 5-6 times a few years before? I just donât get that. I think its more important to look at what a coach has done overall, not JUST the last 2-3 years.[/quote]
Then Iâm glad youâre not our AD/Chancellor or Bobby would likely still be coaching. Whether you agree with it or not, itâs âwhat have you done for me latelyâ for a lot of schools.
IMO, if youâre comparing coaches in 2010:
2 NCAA appearances in last 5 years > 5 appearances prior to 2006
With that said, I would rather have Lutz back than McKillop. Like Bob a lot and think heâs a class act but heâs not big enough for our program as arrogant as that sounds.
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Still in mix. Dooley leader right now. RT @ejschultz3: @goodmanonfox whatâs the latest on Charlotte job? Kelsey still a contender?
In all seriousness how can he make statements like that. Is someone in the Athletic Dept. calling him? Does Dooley even know he is in the lead. Does Judy say Dooley you are our leader and we just need to interview a couple of other people to make ourselves feel good and be sure to use this front runner status against us when we start negotiating salary? WTF[/quote]
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Still in mix. Dooley leader right now. RT @ejschultz3: @goodmanonfox whatâs the latest on Charlotte job? Kelsey still a contender?
In all seriousness how can he make statements like that. Is someone in the Athletic Dept. calling him? Does Dooley even know he is in the lead. Does Judy say Dooley you are our leader and we just need to interview a couple of other people to make ourselves feel good and be sure to use this front runner status against us when we start negotiating salary? WTF[/quote][/quote]
Talking head getting paid to talk whether they know anything or not. All they do is throw BS around.
These guys use the âHootie-at-a-bar Theoryâ. Hit on 200 chicks, if 1% like you, youâve got a threesome.
You conveniently mention their appearancesin the last 5 years (2 for McKillop and I guess 1 for YoungâŚWOW! McKillop has been at Davidson for what ~20 years and has how many NCAA trips (no wins until Steph came along and Iâm willing to bet no more for a while). Not saying their âlosersâ but they arenât necessarily Hall of Famers either. Iâd put Lutzâ record well above either of them although McKillop does get a little extra credit for his one âmiracle runâ.
You conveniently mention their appearancesin the last 5 years (2 for McKillop and I guess 1 for YoungâŚWOW! McKillop has been at Davidson for what ~20 years and has how many NCAA trips (no wins until Steph came along and Iâm willing to bet no more for a while). Not saying their âlosersâ but they arenât necessarily Hall of Famers either. Iâd put Lutzâ record well above either of them although McKillop does get a little extra credit for his one âmiracle runâ.[/quote]I mentioned the past 5 years because thatâs one of the main reasons - if not THE main reason - Lutz is no longer coach. Yes, the SoCon is what it is, but the fact remains that someone mentioned âlosersâ to describe coaches who have taken their respective teams to the Big Dance since the last time the Niners went. And Iâll say Davidson gets back to NCAAs within the next 2-3 years. Hopefully we will have been again by then.