Mayfield is in the game, because Mayfield can pass the ball well. If you recall out of a timeout, Major set up a play that required Mayfield to throw a cross court pass to JB who flared to the opposite wing. I am not sure who else on the team you would want to throw a similar type of pass that is a significantly better FT shooter, especially since he was shooting FTs well for the game.
When we play hard and don't give up ( despite our offensive woes ) we're in most games. Henry would have made a huge difference tonight. Besides our poor point guard play, the easy chip shots inside ( remember that one inbounds play under their basket when their player caught the pass and shot flat footed at point blank range RIDICULOUS) caused our guys to scratch their heads and wonder WTH. I know we are thin inside, but since the regular season is lost, maybe it's time to gamble a bit and play KJ and Bras together more. The minutes might be good for KJ and maybe inside defense might toughen up a bit.
Anybody agree with me that Luka could sure be getting a lot of minutes if he'd just stayed. Oh well our program has always been a lot of could've , should've , would'ves. Anybody privy to Henry's prognosis ?[size=78%]Your best 5 three point shooters and try to get the best look possible, you down by 3.[/size]
You need guys in the game who can get you 3 points and tie the game.
Agreed.
You need guys in the game who can get you 3 points and tie the game.[/quote]
You need guys that are able to get the ball to the shooter. Clearly we would want JB to get that shot, but he canāt create a 3 on his own. Deuce is too small to try to be the main set up guy in that situation. I wouldnāt trust any of the freshman with the ball either. It is clear a lot of the offense goes through Mayfield to set up shots. It wouldnāt have mattered who caught the ball in that situation, they were going to foul us.
We give up too many easy looks and layups. X challenges almost every shot near the basket. They may not block it but they contest it. Iād like to see our guys knock some people on their asses.
[size=78%]Your best 5 three point shooters and try to get the best look possible, you down by 3.[/size][/quote]Lewis, Barnett, Braswell, Green, and Briscoe (Iām omitting Bradbury since heās hit his only 3 taken, and it was banked in I believe). Not sure who makes the pass and you better hold for the last shot in that case or Xavier will run down the court for an automatic score. They were going to foul anyway, but youād have no way of knowing that ahead of time. You also pretty much rule out a quick 2 point score by Lewis (another option with ~ 18 seconds left), which means youāre showing your hand to Xavier and they immediately smother Lewis at the 3 point line defensively.
Guess whoās the next best 3 pt shooter on the team that isnāt injured?
Frankly, Mayfield going 1 of 2 ended up being our best shot to win. If the ref gives us that out of bounds call, then weād all be talking about how dumb it was for Mack to call for a foul with more than 10 seconds left.
I agree with others that point out the real personnel mistake in this game was keeping Braswell on the bench for so long. The coaches should have inserted him with ~ 4 min left in the game (there was a stoppage in play about that time). Instead they waited until around 2 minutes left. Braswell wouldāve reduced the chances that those Xavier drives result in easy baskets when they built their lead back up.
Double Post. [quote=ā73niner, post:42, topic:26281ā] When we play hard and donāt give up ( despite our offensive woes ) weāre in most games. [/quote]
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Iām all for it. I like the concept of KJ, Bras, and JB in there at the same time with JB at the 3 (probably his natural position) and Bras at his more natural 2 position.
Oh well our program has always been a lot of could've , should've , would'ves.
Thatās an understatement if Iāve ever seen one.
Deuce 3 assists 1 turnover 5 reb 1 steal not a bad floor game for a PG
Offensively Deuce and Derrio are not shooting the ball well. Thats concerning.
Dude stop trippin nobody guards Holloway. But maybe we should have put someone tall on him like E. VIC. :))
And what Difference would P.Henry have made we lost 3 A-10 games in a row with him at the pg position.
Henry got torched by Chaz Williams and Kwamaine Mitchell
Henry avg 6 toās a game for two of those 3 straight A-10 losses.
Iāll be glad to see Henry back but he makes absoulutely NO DIFFERENCE on this team offensively and has not made a difference in us WINNING.
We were losing with him and we are losing without him.
Majorās Size King has an offensive system that SUCKS MAJOR A$$ and it does not make any difference who is playing the PG position.
Deuce 3 assists 1 turnover 5 reb 1 steal not a bad floor game for a PG
Offensively Deuce and Derrio are not shooting the ball well. Thats concerning.
Dude stop trippin nobody guards Holloway. But maybe we should have put someone tall on him like E. VIC. :))
And what Difference would P.Henry have made we lost 3 A-10 games in a row with him at the pg position.
Henry got torched by Chaz Williams and Kwamaine Mitchell
Henry avg 6 toās a game for two of those 3 straight A-10 losses.
Iāll be glad to see Henry back but he makes absoulutely NO DIFFERENCE on this team offensively and has not made a difference in us WINNING.
We were losing with him and we are losing without him.
Majorās Size King has an offensive system that SUCKS MAJOR A$$ and it does not make any difference who is playing the PG position.[/quote]
henry would have made a huge difference. he would have been able to stop the dribble penetration that deuce and derrio were allowing, which allowed so many easy points. he does make a difference offensively. he doesnt shoot a lot but can hit threes. also, he is better at feeding the post than deuce is. if you think he hasent made a difference then you are crazy, just look at the st. jospehs game. its hard to have an offensive system when you have one true big man and no consistent outside shooting. i was at the slu game, he did not get torched by mitchell. i dont think mitchell even had double figures.
Deuce 3 assists 1 turnover 5 reb 1 steal not a bad floor game for a PG
Offensively Deuce and Derrio are not shooting the ball well. Thats concerning.
Dude stop trippin nobody guards Holloway. But maybe we should have put someone tall on him like E. VIC. :))
And what Difference would P.Henry have made we lost 3 A-10 games in a row with him at the pg position.
Henry got torched by Chaz Williams and Kwamaine Mitchell
Henry avg 6 toās a game for two of those 3 straight A-10 losses.
Iāll be glad to see Henry back but he makes absoulutely NO DIFFERENCE on this team offensively and has not made a difference in us WINNING.
We were losing with him and we are losing without him.
Majorās Size King has an offensive system that SUCKS MAJOR A$$ and it does not make any difference who is playing the PG position.[/quote]
henry would have made a huge difference. he would have been able to stop the dribble penetration that deuce and derrio were allowing, which allowed so many easy points. he does make a difference offensively. he doesnt shoot a lot but can hit threes. also, he is better at feeding the post than deuce is. if you think he hasent made a difference then you are crazy, just look at the st. jospehs game. its hard to have an offensive system when you have one true big man and no consistent outside shooting. i was at the slu game, he did not get torched by mitchell. i dont think mitchell even had double figures.[/quote]
This is what makes your post sooo incredibly ridiculous. You say you watch the games but dont have a clue to what your talking about.
[pre]03 MITCHELL, Kwamainā¦ g 5-9 3-5 0-0 2 2 4 3 13 4 4 0 2 36 [/pre]Henry has not defended any guards in the A10 well. He struggles with smaller guards and dribble drive penetration because gambles to much, he is fast but not very quick laterally.
If you are not making a difference in the win column then you ARE NOT MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
You say T. Will played a good game yet he scores 2 PTS 3reb 2ast 2to IN 28 MIN. :o
Briscoe 4pts 5reb 3ast 1to in 22min but you list him as a negative.
Yeah Right
t will actually had two points a key block and a nice assist and he hustles back after turnovers. henry actually does defend a10 guards well. i have watched him against a lot of small guards and he stays in front of them. let me ask you a question though, do you think deuce played well defensively yesterday? do you think based on his recent performances that he deserves to start? if you cant see the difference henry makes then you are not watching closely. and he doesnt just get steals because he gambles, he get a lot of steals because he has quick hands. he also plays tight defense while not allowing himself to commit a lot of fouls. i agree that he needs to work on the turnovers but he is the best defensive player i have seen in a long time. a lot of what he does doesnt show up on the stat sheets and thats what you dont get. not everything is measured by stats. its great that deuce scored a lot at nccu but he did it as the only decent player on a bad team, while taking a lot of shots and shooting a low percentage so it really doesnt mean anything. travis taylor of xavier averaged 17.8 points per game at monmouth but had like four last night. its a big step up to the a10 and just scoring a lot of points does not mean you should be a starter or even that you are a good player.
Yes Deuce should be starting and although he did not play great last nite he did play better than any guard on our team other than Mayfield if you consider him a guard ( check the stats)
Again Deuce has scored more pts for us than he has at Central and if you want to use the decent player bad team tag then that means BRAZ, JB, HENRY etc are all not very good because everything they have accomplished has been on a BAD TEAM. RIGHT
You dont score 1000pts on the D1 level in 2 1/2yrs and not be a legitimate D1 talent regardless of who you play for. Not many have done that in 4yrs on good or bad teams
Different coaches have different tastes in guard play. If Lutz were here Briscoe would be starting and flourishing because of the system. There are many coaches in this league that start and feature small scoring guards. The A-10 is a small guard league.
Major Size King has not got the memo yet and we are getting our heads bashed in as a result.
Majorās offensive system is one of the worst in D1 basketball so quite naturally offensive minded guards are not going to be a priority.
so youre saying a guard who didnt score in the first half, actually missed all of his shots badly, didnt play good defense, allowing dribble penetration and turns the ball over should start over henry. that is how i know you are biased towards deuce. there is nobody who would watch him and henry play and say that deuce is better. he just isnt. its not just about how many points you score but how many your man scores on you. holloway was going by him at will. that would not happen if henry was guarding holloway. im not saying he would hold holloway scoreless but he wouldnt allow holloway to drive by him time after time. you may be right that majors style does not fit deuce but that doesnt mean that it is a bad system. would you rather go back to lutz ball where we just dribbled around the three point line looking for a three? scoring 27 points and getting blown out against nc state or duquense does not make him a great player. i like deuce a lot. i think he is a great guy and is a good spark plug off the bench but he hasent done anything the past few games to deserve starting.
You keep saying Henry is this or Henry is that. Wake up dude
HENRY DOES NOT WIN. BRISCOE DOES NOT WIN.
So WTF is the difference.
They both have different skill sets but until one can lead us to win more than we lose then one is no better than the other.
[quote=āsokool, post:57, topic:26281ā]You keep saying Henry is this or Henry is that. Wake up dude
HENRY DOES NOT WIN. BRISCOE DOES NOT WIN.
So WTF is the difference.
They both have different skill sets but until one can lead us to win more than we lose then one is no better than the other.[/quote]
Sokool, youāre the type of person that says Tebow is a better player than Cam because Tebowās team made it to the playoffs even though it is obviously not true.
[quote=āUniversal Niner, post:29, topic:26281ā]We need more athletes. KJ used to be an athlete, but had to tone it down a bit after injury; I think our most athletic player now is Henry followed by Twill.
Braz, a 6-8 guy caught a pass all alone under the basket and couldnāt even dunk it. I thought for sure he was going to get rejected by the rim. He must have a 3 inch vertical or something.[/quote]
We need players that can shoot a basketball is what we need. If we donāt have athletes now, what do we have? We certainly donāt have shooters.
At this point it does not matter. The season is lost and itās in our best interest to let Henry play. We need to let all our freshman (including E Vic) play and lose by 30 if we have to. They need to learn somehow and gain experience. Since we blew to many games this year itās time to move on. Let the kids play so we donāt have to lose by 20 in our opening games next year to get these kids some experience.