Xavier Post Game

No one has said that. What has been repeatedly said is that PH is playing better than Deuce and that he gives us the best chance to win, if for no other reason than he is playing better than Deuce.

You and others here exhibit a sense of eternal optimism coupled with eternal excuses which is to be respected but it is definitely not accepted by all.

I donā€™t ask that it be. But I see reason for optimism whereas you and the other Chicken Littleā€™s on here see only the sky falling. Weā€™ve already equaled the games this year than last. Weā€™ve shown sparks of playing very well. We need to put it all together. My expectations for this year are about what are seeing.

Iā€™ve been around Niner hoops a VERY long time. Iā€™ve seen good times and bad. I want to give Major a chance and I want to give our players a chance. Next year, if we have not improved, I will be highly critical. But I believe in giving everyone a chance. I donā€™t think it makes me an eternal optimist, I think it makes me fair.

I along with most realistic fans agree with everything you just stated above. We are a bad basketball team and other then a couple players having a big game every once in a while we only got one consistent starter (Braz). That being said, what in the world would Briscoe do for us the last 9 games? If you understand this is a bad team you should be advocating itā€™s time to play the rookies and let them learn. Not play Briscoe to try to squeeze 1 more win then we already have.

I along with most realistic fans agree with everything you just stated above. We are a bad basketball team and other then a couple players having a big game every once in a while we only got one consistent starter (Braz). That being said, what in the world would Briscoe do for us the last 9 games? If you understand this is a bad team you should be advocating itā€™s time to play the rookies and let them learn. Not play Briscoe to try to squeeze 1 more win then we already have.[/quote]

I agree with you in all ā€¦ except that Briscoe is a junior. I think P. Henry and Briscoe at the 1 and 2 give us the best chance to win now and next year.

Start and play Henry and Briscoe as much as possible so they can develop a much needed good offensive and defensive backcourt chemistry together in anticipation of next year.

Major will be making another huge mistake to bankroll our hopes on some unproven high school freshman (LESTER,CLAYTON,CLARK) to start or even make us better when we he can start coaching up what we have NOW.

Play T. Will as much as possible behind Briscoe at the 2 and Mayfield at the 3. He can get 25+ min a game rotating at those two positions.

E. Victor is just not ready to play right now. We are hurting him and hurting the team by force feeding him 15 min a game (many of which should be going to KJ) at the expense of winning and developing future chemistry.

Illa should also play 5 to 8 min a game. Major letting him rot on the bench is a tragic mismanagement of a scholarship.

[quote=ā€œsokool, post:83, topic:26281ā€]Start and play Henry and Briscoe as much as possible so they can develop a much needed good offensive and defensive backcourt chemistry together in anticipation of next year.

Major will be making another huge mistake to bankroll our hopes on some unproven high school freshman (LESTER,CLAYTON,CLARK) to start or even make us better when we he can start coaching up what we have NOW.

Play T. Will as much as possible behind Briscoe at the 2 and Mayfield at the 3. He can get 25+ min a game rotating at those two positions.

E. Victor is just not ready to play right now. We are hurting him and hurting the team by force feeding him 15 min a game (many of which should be going to KJ) at the expense of winning and developing future chemistry.

Illa should also play 5 to 8 min a game. Major letting him rot on the bench is a tragic mismanagement of a scholarship.[/quote]

I am ok with Deuce and PH starting at the start of next season - but I also hope that Lester comes in ready to play next year and that by 10 games in Deuce is back on the bench. Given Deuceā€™s stats this year it is definitely realistic to think Lester could have the skill set to start over Deuce. Or that between now and next year T-Will can further develop his game. If Deuce starts all next season at the 2 it is a bad sign.

I also agree KJ should be getting more minutes and Ilja should be getting around 5-8 mins a game.

Ilja came here knowing what his role would be, limited to no playing time. Heā€™s a bruiser for our bigs to practice against.

If Deuce isnā€™t scoring, he isnā€™t helping, period. The offensive flow is putrid when heā€™s at the PG. Mayfield ran it better last night. If Derrio wasnā€™t playing horrible this year, I believe Deuce would only be playing 5-10mpg. Deuceā€™s career FG% is < 40%, <36% from 3. Heā€™s also averaging 1 assit per game this year, great production from a guard.

Not trying to support or argue the playing time debate with this statement, but I remember many fans saying this about Eddie Basden as a freshman and sophmore. True story.

[quote=ā€œNinerWupAss, post:84, topic:26281ā€][quote=ā€œsokool, post:83, topic:26281ā€]Start and play Henry and Briscoe as much as possible so they can develop a much needed good offensive and defensive backcourt chemistry together in anticipation of next year.

Major will be making another huge mistake to bankroll our hopes on some unproven high school freshman (LESTER,CLAYTON,CLARK) to start or even make us better when we he can start coaching up what we have NOW.

Play T. Will as much as possible behind Briscoe at the 2 and Mayfield at the 3. He can get 25+ min a game rotating at those two positions.

E. Victor is just not ready to play right now. We are hurting him and hurting the team by force feeding him 15 min a game (many of which should be going to KJ) at the expense of winning and developing future chemistry.

Illa should also play 5 to 8 min a game. Major letting him rot on the bench is a tragic mismanagement of a scholarship.[/quote]

I am ok with Deuce and PH starting at the start of next season - but I also hope that Lester comes in ready to play next year and that by 10 games in Deuce is back on the bench. Given Deuceā€™s stats this year it is definitely realistic to think Lester could have the skill set to start over Deuce. Or that between now and next year T-Will can further develop his game. If Deuce starts all next season at the 2 it is a bad sign.

I also agree KJ should be getting more minutes and Ilja should be getting around 5-8 mins a game.[/quote]

I donā€™t think this is what you meant by the statement, but that does read like an agenda against Briscoe. I donā€™t really care who starts. I just want to win. I hope Lester comes in and can hit 3s at a 50% mark. But I also hope Deuce gets better over the course of this season and the off season, and he too is hitting 3s at 50%. The more competition/options the better.

[quote=ā€œNormmm, post:87, topic:26281ā€][quote=ā€œNinerWupAss, post:84, topic:26281ā€][quote=ā€œsokool, post:83, topic:26281ā€]Start and play Henry and Briscoe as much as possible so they can develop a much needed good offensive and defensive backcourt chemistry together in anticipation of next year.

Major will be making another huge mistake to bankroll our hopes on some unproven high school freshman (LESTER,CLAYTON,CLARK) to start or even make us better when we he can start coaching up what we have NOW.

Play T. Will as much as possible behind Briscoe at the 2 and Mayfield at the 3. He can get 25+ min a game rotating at those two positions.

E. Victor is just not ready to play right now. We are hurting him and hurting the team by force feeding him 15 min a game (many of which should be going to KJ) at the expense of winning and developing future chemistry.

Illa should also play 5 to 8 min a game. Major letting him rot on the bench is a tragic mismanagement of a scholarship.[/quote]

I am ok with Deuce and PH starting at the start of next season - but I also hope that Lester comes in ready to play next year and that by 10 games in Deuce is back on the bench. Given Deuceā€™s stats this year it is definitely realistic to think Lester could have the skill set to start over Deuce. Or that between now and next year T-Will can further develop his game. If Deuce starts all next season at the 2 it is a bad sign.

I also agree KJ should be getting more minutes and Ilja should be getting around 5-8 mins a game.[/quote]

I donā€™t think this is what you meant by the sthatement, but that does read like an agenda against Briscoe. I donā€™t really care who starts. I just want to win. I hope Lester comes in and can hit 3s at a 50% mark. But I also hope Deuce gets better over the course of this season and the off season, and he too is hitting 3s at 50%. The more competition/options the better.[/quote]

Not an agenda against deuece. Just dont think he is our solution at 2 this year or next. A spark off the bench sure but if he is our best option at the sg slot it will be another long year.

Part of the solution to the offensive woes is a better offensive strategy. Our players arenā€™t 302nd in NCAA bad. A lot of it is scheme and coaching.

This

Deuce has the capability and has shown to be an effective and efficient scorer in the A-10.

Majors seems to have no clue as to how to create a system to maximize the offensive strengths of his players and that is disturbing.

If Major remains clueless in this area then it makes no difference who comes in or who is playing. We will SUCK.

[quote=ā€œ2k, post:85, topic:26281ā€]Ilja came here knowing what his role would be, limited to no playing time. Heā€™s a bruiser for our bigs to practice against.

If Deuce isnā€™t scoring, he isnā€™t helping, period. The offensive flow is putrid when heā€™s at the PG. Mayfield ran it better last night. If Derrio wasnā€™t playing horrible this year, I believe Deuce would only be playing 5-10mpg. Deuceā€™s career FG% is < 40%, <36% from 3. Heā€™s also averaging 1 assit per game this year, great production from a guard.[/quote]

Dude NO Juco chooses to play for a coach knowing he is going to get no playing time for his last 2 years. Thats just crazy to even post something like that.

But most of your posts are just that ā€¦ CRAZY. So iā€™ve come to expect and respect the insanity in your dialog.

Briscoeā€™s career stats are a far better option right now then someone that brings only high school career stats.

If we have to go with another of your WONDER FRESHMAN (i.e. E. Vic) as a starter at the 2 we will be worst offensively next year than we are this year.

You and your buddy Majors belief in NOT SO ready to play freshman at this level is what has us at such a miserable level.

THIS. I think Deuce and Derrio are in shooting slumps, but Iā€™ve seen them both go off for big games way too often to think this entire season is a slump. We definitely need a better offensive plan.

[quote=ā€œsokool, post:91, topic:26281ā€][quote=ā€œ2k, post:85, topic:26281ā€]Ilja came here knowing what his role would be, limited to no playing time. Heā€™s a bruiser for our bigs to practice against.

If Deuce isnā€™t scoring, he isnā€™t helping, period. The offensive flow is putrid when heā€™s at the PG. Mayfield ran it better last night. If Derrio wasnā€™t playing horrible this year, I believe Deuce would only be playing 5-10mpg. Deuceā€™s career FG% is < 40%, <36% from 3. Heā€™s also averaging 1 assit per game this year, great production from a guard.[/quote]

Dude NO Juco chooses to play for a coach knowing he is going to get no playing time for his last 2 years. Thats just crazy to even post something like that.[/quote]

While I have no clue at what kind of playing time Ilia expected, I will say this. I think itā€™s !@*#*!ing stupid to waste a scholarship on someone who plays 15 minutes total in an entire season.

How is it the coaches fault that the team canā€™t shoot? Earlier in the season we lost a couple games and EVERYONE on here was saying we had our wide open shots we just could not knock them down. It is the coaches job to get the players into the position to have an easy or open shot. They are not the one shooting the ball.

How many free throws have we missed, dunks, wide open lay-ups, fast breaks that turn into turnovers, wide open shots, mildly contested shots. The coach has nothing to do with any of that. His job is to have plays that get players into good/great position to score or pass to an open guy. When our guys have crisp passing and stay with the plan we score 70 against a good Xavier team. When they play street ball and-1 style we donā€™t score our first bucket until 10 minutes into the first half.

To me the not scoring and being so pathetic on offense is both a coaching and player problem. I just think it falls more on the players.

Talk about dressing up a garbage can.

Wowā€¦justā€¦wow.

Talk about dressing up a garbage can.

Wowā€¦justā€¦wow.[/quote]

Yea, that one didnā€™t make any sense.

And why is the argument Deuce vs. Henry? Mayfield ran the point against Xavier, not Briscoe.

Nowā€¦ Deuce or Derrio? Thereā€™s an legit argument to be had there.

I swear, sokool is Briscoes worst enemy.

These post game threads get worse and worse as the days go on.

No the worst a post game thread can get is if no one responds. The positive is that people still care - which given the state of our program and team is pretty amazing.

[quote=ā€œsportsman1417, post:93, topic:26281ā€]How is it the coaches fault that the team canā€™t shoot? Earlier in the season we lost a couple games and EVERYONE on here was saying we had our wide open shots we just could not knock them down. It is the coaches job to get the players into the position to have an easy or open shot. They are not the one shooting the ball.

How many free throws have we missed, dunks, wide open lay-ups, fast breaks that turn into turnovers, wide open shots, mildly contested shots. The coach has nothing to do with any of that. His job is to have plays that get players into good/great position to score or pass to an open guy. When our guys have crisp passing and stay with the plan we score 70 against a good Xavier team. When they play street ball and-1 style we donā€™t score our first bucket until 10 minutes into the first half.

To me the not scoring and being so pathetic on offense is both a coaching and player problem. I just think it falls more on the players.[/quote]

I see players missing open shots every single game.

We should run more double baseline screens to get a 3pt shot in the corner with our shooter falling into the bench. Thatā€™s better offense. Maybe we can run ZIPPER 30 times per game.

Our half court offense demands complete players at every position, and we do not have them. Thatā€™s the only criticism I have.

No one on our team can hit an open shot consistently and most of our players canā€™t hit layups.

We miss Henry a lot.